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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.



In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.




What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?

Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?

Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?











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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.



In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.




What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?

Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?

Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?











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    – PiIsNot3
    52 mins ago










  • $begingroup$
    Does the game end when one of the symmetrically moving pieces captures, or when both do?
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    – Rewan Demontay
    46 mins ago






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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.



In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.




What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?

Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?

Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?











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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.



In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.




What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?

Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?

Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?








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  • $begingroup$
    Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
    $endgroup$
    – PiIsNot3
    52 mins ago










  • $begingroup$
    Does the game end when one of the symmetrically moving pieces captures, or when both do?
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    46 mins ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
    $endgroup$
    – Artem Lugin
    43 mins ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Thanks for the welcome
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    42 mins ago






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    $begingroup$
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  • $begingroup$
    Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
    $endgroup$
    – PiIsNot3
    52 mins ago










  • $begingroup$
    Does the game end when one of the symmetrically moving pieces captures, or when both do?
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    46 mins ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
    $endgroup$
    – Artem Lugin
    43 mins ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
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$begingroup$
Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
$endgroup$
– PiIsNot3
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$begingroup$
Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
$endgroup$
– PiIsNot3
52 mins ago












$begingroup$
Does the game end when one of the symmetrically moving pieces captures, or when both do?
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
46 mins ago




$begingroup$
Does the game end when one of the symmetrically moving pieces captures, or when both do?
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
46 mins ago




1




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$begingroup$
@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
$endgroup$
– Artem Lugin
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@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
$endgroup$
– Artem Lugin
43 mins ago




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R x R




This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting


1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5

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    I got you beat, my man! Also, only one side has to do the capturing.
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    Points given! :D
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Under your rules, here are my answers.



Rook X Rook:




1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Knight X Rook:




1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Queen X Bishop:




1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4




Proof Game:




Apronus







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    The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    19 mins ago






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$begingroup$

Partial (will update as I go)



R x R




This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting


1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5

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    I got you beat, my man! Also, only one side has to do the capturing.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
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    Points given! :D
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$begingroup$

Partial (will update as I go)



R x R




This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting


1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5

Apronus link







share|improve this answer









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  • $begingroup$
    I got you beat, my man! Also, only one side has to do the capturing.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    24 mins ago











  • $begingroup$
    Points given! :D
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$begingroup$

Partial (will update as I go)



R x R




This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting


1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5

Apronus link







share|improve this answer









$endgroup$



Partial (will update as I go)



R x R




This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting


1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5

Apronus link








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  • $begingroup$
    I got you beat, my man! Also, only one side has to do the capturing.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    24 mins ago











  • $begingroup$
    Points given! :D
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    22 mins ago
















  • $begingroup$
    I got you beat, my man! Also, only one side has to do the capturing.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    24 mins ago











  • $begingroup$
    Points given! :D
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    22 mins ago















$begingroup$
I got you beat, my man! Also, only one side has to do the capturing.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
24 mins ago





$begingroup$
I got you beat, my man! Also, only one side has to do the capturing.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
24 mins ago













$begingroup$
Points given! :D
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
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$begingroup$
Points given! :D
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– Rewan Demontay
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Under your rules, here are my answers.



Rook X Rook:




1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Knight X Rook:




1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Queen X Bishop:




1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4




Proof Game:




Apronus







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  • $begingroup$
    The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    19 mins ago






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    $begingroup$
    Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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    – Rewan Demontay
    16 mins ago
















2












$begingroup$

Under your rules, here are my answers.



Rook X Rook:




1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Knight X Rook:




1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Queen X Bishop:




1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4




Proof Game:




Apronus







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  • $begingroup$
    The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    19 mins ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
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2








2





$begingroup$

Under your rules, here are my answers.



Rook X Rook:




1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Knight X Rook:




1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Queen X Bishop:




1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4




Proof Game:




Apronus







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$endgroup$



Under your rules, here are my answers.



Rook X Rook:




1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Knight X Rook:




1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8




Proof Game:




Apronus




Queen X Bishop:




1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4




Proof Game:




Apronus








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    The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
    $endgroup$
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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  • $begingroup$
    The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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$begingroup$
The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
$endgroup$
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$begingroup$
The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
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Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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