Combinatorics problem on counting. Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Combinatorics and elementary probabilityFinding Number Of Cases,Simple Counting Questionhow many integers are there between 10 000 and 99 999…Coloring integers: there exist 2000 consecutive integers among which 1000 of each colorSubset Counting questionCounting Techniques with CombinatoricsHow many odd $100$-digit numbers such that every two consecutive digits differ by exactly 2 are there?Combinatorics and countCounting elementsCounting the equal-differences of an permutation
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Combinatorics problem on counting.
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Combinatorics and elementary probabilityFinding Number Of Cases,Simple Counting Questionhow many integers are there between 10 000 and 99 999…Coloring integers: there exist 2000 consecutive integers among which 1000 of each colorSubset Counting questionCounting Techniques with CombinatoricsHow many odd $100$-digit numbers such that every two consecutive digits differ by exactly 2 are there?Combinatorics and countCounting elementsCounting the equal-differences of an permutation
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How many positive integers n are there such that all of the following take place:
1) n has 1000 digits.
2) all of the digits are odd.
3) the absolute value of the difference of any two consecutive (neighboring) digits is equal to 2.
Please help. I don’t even know how to start.
combinatorics
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How many positive integers n are there such that all of the following take place:
1) n has 1000 digits.
2) all of the digits are odd.
3) the absolute value of the difference of any two consecutive (neighboring) digits is equal to 2.
Please help. I don’t even know how to start.
combinatorics
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Start with an easier problem: how many two-digit numbers are there? what about three-digit?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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I could simply guess the case of two digit numbers. How does it help me prove the general one?
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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You do not need to guess, you can count. How many choices for the first digit do you have? what about the second?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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For the first digit (call it a1) there are 5 choices. For the second digit at most 2 choices. Either a1-2 or a1+2. But it depends if a1 is greater than 2/ smaller than 8 etc. I’m stuck on this.
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– furfur
4 hours ago
2
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Letting $a_m$ be the number of such integers with $m$ digits, then $a_m$ obeys the recurrence $$a_m=4a_m-2-3a_m-4qquad textfor all mge 6.$$ The proof is based on Julian Mejia's answer, along with the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, but perhaps you can give a combinatorial proof of that recurrence, then solve it.
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– Mike Earnest
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How many positive integers n are there such that all of the following take place:
1) n has 1000 digits.
2) all of the digits are odd.
3) the absolute value of the difference of any two consecutive (neighboring) digits is equal to 2.
Please help. I don’t even know how to start.
combinatorics
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How many positive integers n are there such that all of the following take place:
1) n has 1000 digits.
2) all of the digits are odd.
3) the absolute value of the difference of any two consecutive (neighboring) digits is equal to 2.
Please help. I don’t even know how to start.
combinatorics
combinatorics
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furfurfurfur
1069
1069
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Start with an easier problem: how many two-digit numbers are there? what about three-digit?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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I could simply guess the case of two digit numbers. How does it help me prove the general one?
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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You do not need to guess, you can count. How many choices for the first digit do you have? what about the second?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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For the first digit (call it a1) there are 5 choices. For the second digit at most 2 choices. Either a1-2 or a1+2. But it depends if a1 is greater than 2/ smaller than 8 etc. I’m stuck on this.
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– furfur
4 hours ago
2
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Letting $a_m$ be the number of such integers with $m$ digits, then $a_m$ obeys the recurrence $$a_m=4a_m-2-3a_m-4qquad textfor all mge 6.$$ The proof is based on Julian Mejia's answer, along with the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, but perhaps you can give a combinatorial proof of that recurrence, then solve it.
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– Mike Earnest
2 hours ago
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show 2 more comments
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Start with an easier problem: how many two-digit numbers are there? what about three-digit?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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I could simply guess the case of two digit numbers. How does it help me prove the general one?
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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You do not need to guess, you can count. How many choices for the first digit do you have? what about the second?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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For the first digit (call it a1) there are 5 choices. For the second digit at most 2 choices. Either a1-2 or a1+2. But it depends if a1 is greater than 2/ smaller than 8 etc. I’m stuck on this.
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– furfur
4 hours ago
2
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Letting $a_m$ be the number of such integers with $m$ digits, then $a_m$ obeys the recurrence $$a_m=4a_m-2-3a_m-4qquad textfor all mge 6.$$ The proof is based on Julian Mejia's answer, along with the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, but perhaps you can give a combinatorial proof of that recurrence, then solve it.
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– Mike Earnest
2 hours ago
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Start with an easier problem: how many two-digit numbers are there? what about three-digit?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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Start with an easier problem: how many two-digit numbers are there? what about three-digit?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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I could simply guess the case of two digit numbers. How does it help me prove the general one?
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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I could simply guess the case of two digit numbers. How does it help me prove the general one?
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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You do not need to guess, you can count. How many choices for the first digit do you have? what about the second?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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You do not need to guess, you can count. How many choices for the first digit do you have? what about the second?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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For the first digit (call it a1) there are 5 choices. For the second digit at most 2 choices. Either a1-2 or a1+2. But it depends if a1 is greater than 2/ smaller than 8 etc. I’m stuck on this.
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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For the first digit (call it a1) there are 5 choices. For the second digit at most 2 choices. Either a1-2 or a1+2. But it depends if a1 is greater than 2/ smaller than 8 etc. I’m stuck on this.
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– furfur
4 hours ago
2
2
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Letting $a_m$ be the number of such integers with $m$ digits, then $a_m$ obeys the recurrence $$a_m=4a_m-2-3a_m-4qquad textfor all mge 6.$$ The proof is based on Julian Mejia's answer, along with the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, but perhaps you can give a combinatorial proof of that recurrence, then solve it.
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– Mike Earnest
2 hours ago
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Letting $a_m$ be the number of such integers with $m$ digits, then $a_m$ obeys the recurrence $$a_m=4a_m-2-3a_m-4qquad textfor all mge 6.$$ The proof is based on Julian Mejia's answer, along with the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, but perhaps you can give a combinatorial proof of that recurrence, then solve it.
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Define $n_i=2i-1$ (so a bijection between 1,2,3,4,5 with 1,3,5,7,9).
Consider the 5x5 matrix $A=(a_i,j)$ with $a_i,j=1$ if $n_i$ and $n_j$ differ by 2 and $a_i,j=0$ otherwise. Then, the number of positive integers with "m" digits satisfying your properties is the sum of entries of $A^m-1$. So you want to find the sum of entries of $A^999$. I don't know if this is easy to compute without computers.
Edit:
We have $$A=left(beginarrayccccc
0&1&0&0&0\
1&0&1&0&0\
0&1&0&1&0\
0&0&1&0&1\
0&0&0&1&0\
endarray
right)$$
So, thanks to @Mike's comment, it shouldn't be difficult to find the entries of $A^999$ we have that $A=PDP^-1$ with
$$D=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&0&0&0&0\
0&0&0&0&0\
0&0&1&0&0\
0&0&0&-sqrt3&0\
0&0&0&0&sqrt3\
endarray
right)$$
$$P=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&1&-1&1&1\
1&0&-1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
0&-1&0&2&2\
-1&0&1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
1&1&1&1&1\
endarray
right)$$
So, we can compute $A^999=PD^999P^-1$ whose entries will be a linear combination of $(-1)^999, (1)^999, (-sqrt3)^999,(sqrt3)^999$.
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It shouldn't be too bad to diagonalize $A$. The characteristic polynomial is $lambda^5-4lambda^3+3lambda=lambda(lambda^2-1)(lambda^2-3)$, etc.
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– Mike Earnest
3 hours ago
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Here is a OCaml program that computes the number of numbers in term of the size of the number:
type 'a stream= Eos| StrCons of 'a * (unit-> 'a stream)
let hdStr (s: 'a stream) : 'a =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "headless stream"
| StrCons (x,_) -> x;;
let tlStr (s : 'a stream) : 'a stream =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "empty stream"
| StrCons (x, t) -> t ();;
let rec listify (s : 'a stream) (n: int) : 'a list =
if n <= 0 then []
else
match s with
| Eos -> []
| _ -> (hdStr s) :: listify (tlStr s) (n - 1);;
let rec howmanynumber start step=
if step = 0 then 1 else
match start with
|1->howmanynumber 3 (step-1)
|3->howmanynumber 1 (step-1) + howmanynumber 5 (step-1)
|5->howmanynumber 3 (step-1) + howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|7->howmanynumber 5 (step-1) + howmanynumber 9 (step-1)
|9->howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|_->failwith "exception error"
let count n=
(howmanynumber 1 n)+(howmanynumber 3 n)+(howmanynumber 5 n)+(howmanynumber 7 n)+(howmanynumber 9 n)
let rec thisseq n = StrCons(count n , fun ()-> thisseq (n+1))
let result = thisseq 1
So Based on @Julian solution, the answer is the sum of entries of
$beginbmatrix
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 1 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
endbmatrix^999 * beginbmatrix
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
endbmatrix$
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Thank you! But it was supposed to be a mathematical proof, since we are on math.stackexchange. Thank you for your effort though!
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– furfur
3 hours ago
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The text was too lengthy for a comment and aims on finalizing the previous answers and comments, which boil down to a very simple final answer for $nge2$: $$a_n=begincaseshphantom18cdot 3^fracn-22,& ntext even,\14 cdot 3^fracn-32,& ntext odd.endcasestag1$$
The most simple way to prove $(1)$ is to count directly the number of ways for the cases $n=2,3,4,5$ obtaining $a_n=8,14,24,42$, and then proceed by induction applying the recurrence relation suggested by Mike Earnest on the base of the characteristic polynomial of the matrix introduced by Julian Mejia:
$$
a_n=4a_n-2-3a_n-4.tag2
$$
In fact the simplicity of the answer suggests that there is possibly a simpler way to prove $(2)$ or even directly $(1)$.
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Define $n_i=2i-1$ (so a bijection between 1,2,3,4,5 with 1,3,5,7,9).
Consider the 5x5 matrix $A=(a_i,j)$ with $a_i,j=1$ if $n_i$ and $n_j$ differ by 2 and $a_i,j=0$ otherwise. Then, the number of positive integers with "m" digits satisfying your properties is the sum of entries of $A^m-1$. So you want to find the sum of entries of $A^999$. I don't know if this is easy to compute without computers.
Edit:
We have $$A=left(beginarrayccccc
0&1&0&0&0\
1&0&1&0&0\
0&1&0&1&0\
0&0&1&0&1\
0&0&0&1&0\
endarray
right)$$
So, thanks to @Mike's comment, it shouldn't be difficult to find the entries of $A^999$ we have that $A=PDP^-1$ with
$$D=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&0&0&0&0\
0&0&0&0&0\
0&0&1&0&0\
0&0&0&-sqrt3&0\
0&0&0&0&sqrt3\
endarray
right)$$
$$P=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&1&-1&1&1\
1&0&-1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
0&-1&0&2&2\
-1&0&1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
1&1&1&1&1\
endarray
right)$$
So, we can compute $A^999=PD^999P^-1$ whose entries will be a linear combination of $(-1)^999, (1)^999, (-sqrt3)^999,(sqrt3)^999$.
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It shouldn't be too bad to diagonalize $A$. The characteristic polynomial is $lambda^5-4lambda^3+3lambda=lambda(lambda^2-1)(lambda^2-3)$, etc.
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– Mike Earnest
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Define $n_i=2i-1$ (so a bijection between 1,2,3,4,5 with 1,3,5,7,9).
Consider the 5x5 matrix $A=(a_i,j)$ with $a_i,j=1$ if $n_i$ and $n_j$ differ by 2 and $a_i,j=0$ otherwise. Then, the number of positive integers with "m" digits satisfying your properties is the sum of entries of $A^m-1$. So you want to find the sum of entries of $A^999$. I don't know if this is easy to compute without computers.
Edit:
We have $$A=left(beginarrayccccc
0&1&0&0&0\
1&0&1&0&0\
0&1&0&1&0\
0&0&1&0&1\
0&0&0&1&0\
endarray
right)$$
So, thanks to @Mike's comment, it shouldn't be difficult to find the entries of $A^999$ we have that $A=PDP^-1$ with
$$D=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&0&0&0&0\
0&0&0&0&0\
0&0&1&0&0\
0&0&0&-sqrt3&0\
0&0&0&0&sqrt3\
endarray
right)$$
$$P=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&1&-1&1&1\
1&0&-1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
0&-1&0&2&2\
-1&0&1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
1&1&1&1&1\
endarray
right)$$
So, we can compute $A^999=PD^999P^-1$ whose entries will be a linear combination of $(-1)^999, (1)^999, (-sqrt3)^999,(sqrt3)^999$.
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1
$begingroup$
It shouldn't be too bad to diagonalize $A$. The characteristic polynomial is $lambda^5-4lambda^3+3lambda=lambda(lambda^2-1)(lambda^2-3)$, etc.
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– Mike Earnest
3 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Define $n_i=2i-1$ (so a bijection between 1,2,3,4,5 with 1,3,5,7,9).
Consider the 5x5 matrix $A=(a_i,j)$ with $a_i,j=1$ if $n_i$ and $n_j$ differ by 2 and $a_i,j=0$ otherwise. Then, the number of positive integers with "m" digits satisfying your properties is the sum of entries of $A^m-1$. So you want to find the sum of entries of $A^999$. I don't know if this is easy to compute without computers.
Edit:
We have $$A=left(beginarrayccccc
0&1&0&0&0\
1&0&1&0&0\
0&1&0&1&0\
0&0&1&0&1\
0&0&0&1&0\
endarray
right)$$
So, thanks to @Mike's comment, it shouldn't be difficult to find the entries of $A^999$ we have that $A=PDP^-1$ with
$$D=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&0&0&0&0\
0&0&0&0&0\
0&0&1&0&0\
0&0&0&-sqrt3&0\
0&0&0&0&sqrt3\
endarray
right)$$
$$P=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&1&-1&1&1\
1&0&-1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
0&-1&0&2&2\
-1&0&1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
1&1&1&1&1\
endarray
right)$$
So, we can compute $A^999=PD^999P^-1$ whose entries will be a linear combination of $(-1)^999, (1)^999, (-sqrt3)^999,(sqrt3)^999$.
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Define $n_i=2i-1$ (so a bijection between 1,2,3,4,5 with 1,3,5,7,9).
Consider the 5x5 matrix $A=(a_i,j)$ with $a_i,j=1$ if $n_i$ and $n_j$ differ by 2 and $a_i,j=0$ otherwise. Then, the number of positive integers with "m" digits satisfying your properties is the sum of entries of $A^m-1$. So you want to find the sum of entries of $A^999$. I don't know if this is easy to compute without computers.
Edit:
We have $$A=left(beginarrayccccc
0&1&0&0&0\
1&0&1&0&0\
0&1&0&1&0\
0&0&1&0&1\
0&0&0&1&0\
endarray
right)$$
So, thanks to @Mike's comment, it shouldn't be difficult to find the entries of $A^999$ we have that $A=PDP^-1$ with
$$D=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&0&0&0&0\
0&0&0&0&0\
0&0&1&0&0\
0&0&0&-sqrt3&0\
0&0&0&0&sqrt3\
endarray
right)$$
$$P=left(beginarrayccccc
-1&1&-1&1&1\
1&0&-1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
0&-1&0&2&2\
-1&0&1&-sqrt3&sqrt3\
1&1&1&1&1\
endarray
right)$$
So, we can compute $A^999=PD^999P^-1$ whose entries will be a linear combination of $(-1)^999, (1)^999, (-sqrt3)^999,(sqrt3)^999$.
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It shouldn't be too bad to diagonalize $A$. The characteristic polynomial is $lambda^5-4lambda^3+3lambda=lambda(lambda^2-1)(lambda^2-3)$, etc.
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– Mike Earnest
3 hours ago
add a comment |
1
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It shouldn't be too bad to diagonalize $A$. The characteristic polynomial is $lambda^5-4lambda^3+3lambda=lambda(lambda^2-1)(lambda^2-3)$, etc.
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– Mike Earnest
3 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
It shouldn't be too bad to diagonalize $A$. The characteristic polynomial is $lambda^5-4lambda^3+3lambda=lambda(lambda^2-1)(lambda^2-3)$, etc.
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– Mike Earnest
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
It shouldn't be too bad to diagonalize $A$. The characteristic polynomial is $lambda^5-4lambda^3+3lambda=lambda(lambda^2-1)(lambda^2-3)$, etc.
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– Mike Earnest
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Here is a OCaml program that computes the number of numbers in term of the size of the number:
type 'a stream= Eos| StrCons of 'a * (unit-> 'a stream)
let hdStr (s: 'a stream) : 'a =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "headless stream"
| StrCons (x,_) -> x;;
let tlStr (s : 'a stream) : 'a stream =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "empty stream"
| StrCons (x, t) -> t ();;
let rec listify (s : 'a stream) (n: int) : 'a list =
if n <= 0 then []
else
match s with
| Eos -> []
| _ -> (hdStr s) :: listify (tlStr s) (n - 1);;
let rec howmanynumber start step=
if step = 0 then 1 else
match start with
|1->howmanynumber 3 (step-1)
|3->howmanynumber 1 (step-1) + howmanynumber 5 (step-1)
|5->howmanynumber 3 (step-1) + howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|7->howmanynumber 5 (step-1) + howmanynumber 9 (step-1)
|9->howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|_->failwith "exception error"
let count n=
(howmanynumber 1 n)+(howmanynumber 3 n)+(howmanynumber 5 n)+(howmanynumber 7 n)+(howmanynumber 9 n)
let rec thisseq n = StrCons(count n , fun ()-> thisseq (n+1))
let result = thisseq 1
So Based on @Julian solution, the answer is the sum of entries of
$beginbmatrix
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 1 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
endbmatrix^999 * beginbmatrix
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
endbmatrix$
$endgroup$
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Thank you! But it was supposed to be a mathematical proof, since we are on math.stackexchange. Thank you for your effort though!
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– furfur
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Here is a OCaml program that computes the number of numbers in term of the size of the number:
type 'a stream= Eos| StrCons of 'a * (unit-> 'a stream)
let hdStr (s: 'a stream) : 'a =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "headless stream"
| StrCons (x,_) -> x;;
let tlStr (s : 'a stream) : 'a stream =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "empty stream"
| StrCons (x, t) -> t ();;
let rec listify (s : 'a stream) (n: int) : 'a list =
if n <= 0 then []
else
match s with
| Eos -> []
| _ -> (hdStr s) :: listify (tlStr s) (n - 1);;
let rec howmanynumber start step=
if step = 0 then 1 else
match start with
|1->howmanynumber 3 (step-1)
|3->howmanynumber 1 (step-1) + howmanynumber 5 (step-1)
|5->howmanynumber 3 (step-1) + howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|7->howmanynumber 5 (step-1) + howmanynumber 9 (step-1)
|9->howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|_->failwith "exception error"
let count n=
(howmanynumber 1 n)+(howmanynumber 3 n)+(howmanynumber 5 n)+(howmanynumber 7 n)+(howmanynumber 9 n)
let rec thisseq n = StrCons(count n , fun ()-> thisseq (n+1))
let result = thisseq 1
So Based on @Julian solution, the answer is the sum of entries of
$beginbmatrix
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 1 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
endbmatrix^999 * beginbmatrix
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
endbmatrix$
$endgroup$
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Thank you! But it was supposed to be a mathematical proof, since we are on math.stackexchange. Thank you for your effort though!
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– furfur
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Here is a OCaml program that computes the number of numbers in term of the size of the number:
type 'a stream= Eos| StrCons of 'a * (unit-> 'a stream)
let hdStr (s: 'a stream) : 'a =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "headless stream"
| StrCons (x,_) -> x;;
let tlStr (s : 'a stream) : 'a stream =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "empty stream"
| StrCons (x, t) -> t ();;
let rec listify (s : 'a stream) (n: int) : 'a list =
if n <= 0 then []
else
match s with
| Eos -> []
| _ -> (hdStr s) :: listify (tlStr s) (n - 1);;
let rec howmanynumber start step=
if step = 0 then 1 else
match start with
|1->howmanynumber 3 (step-1)
|3->howmanynumber 1 (step-1) + howmanynumber 5 (step-1)
|5->howmanynumber 3 (step-1) + howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|7->howmanynumber 5 (step-1) + howmanynumber 9 (step-1)
|9->howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|_->failwith "exception error"
let count n=
(howmanynumber 1 n)+(howmanynumber 3 n)+(howmanynumber 5 n)+(howmanynumber 7 n)+(howmanynumber 9 n)
let rec thisseq n = StrCons(count n , fun ()-> thisseq (n+1))
let result = thisseq 1
So Based on @Julian solution, the answer is the sum of entries of
$beginbmatrix
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 1 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
endbmatrix^999 * beginbmatrix
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
endbmatrix$
$endgroup$
Here is a OCaml program that computes the number of numbers in term of the size of the number:
type 'a stream= Eos| StrCons of 'a * (unit-> 'a stream)
let hdStr (s: 'a stream) : 'a =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "headless stream"
| StrCons (x,_) -> x;;
let tlStr (s : 'a stream) : 'a stream =
match s with
| Eos -> failwith "empty stream"
| StrCons (x, t) -> t ();;
let rec listify (s : 'a stream) (n: int) : 'a list =
if n <= 0 then []
else
match s with
| Eos -> []
| _ -> (hdStr s) :: listify (tlStr s) (n - 1);;
let rec howmanynumber start step=
if step = 0 then 1 else
match start with
|1->howmanynumber 3 (step-1)
|3->howmanynumber 1 (step-1) + howmanynumber 5 (step-1)
|5->howmanynumber 3 (step-1) + howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|7->howmanynumber 5 (step-1) + howmanynumber 9 (step-1)
|9->howmanynumber 7 (step-1)
|_->failwith "exception error"
let count n=
(howmanynumber 1 n)+(howmanynumber 3 n)+(howmanynumber 5 n)+(howmanynumber 7 n)+(howmanynumber 9 n)
let rec thisseq n = StrCons(count n , fun ()-> thisseq (n+1))
let result = thisseq 1
So Based on @Julian solution, the answer is the sum of entries of
$beginbmatrix
0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \
1 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 1 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \
endbmatrix^999 * beginbmatrix
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
1 \
endbmatrix$
edited 3 hours ago
answered 4 hours ago
mathpadawanmathpadawan
2,175522
2,175522
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Thank you! But it was supposed to be a mathematical proof, since we are on math.stackexchange. Thank you for your effort though!
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– furfur
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Thank you! But it was supposed to be a mathematical proof, since we are on math.stackexchange. Thank you for your effort though!
$endgroup$
– furfur
3 hours ago
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Thank you! But it was supposed to be a mathematical proof, since we are on math.stackexchange. Thank you for your effort though!
$endgroup$
– furfur
3 hours ago
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Thank you! But it was supposed to be a mathematical proof, since we are on math.stackexchange. Thank you for your effort though!
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– furfur
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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The text was too lengthy for a comment and aims on finalizing the previous answers and comments, which boil down to a very simple final answer for $nge2$: $$a_n=begincaseshphantom18cdot 3^fracn-22,& ntext even,\14 cdot 3^fracn-32,& ntext odd.endcasestag1$$
The most simple way to prove $(1)$ is to count directly the number of ways for the cases $n=2,3,4,5$ obtaining $a_n=8,14,24,42$, and then proceed by induction applying the recurrence relation suggested by Mike Earnest on the base of the characteristic polynomial of the matrix introduced by Julian Mejia:
$$
a_n=4a_n-2-3a_n-4.tag2
$$
In fact the simplicity of the answer suggests that there is possibly a simpler way to prove $(2)$ or even directly $(1)$.
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add a comment |
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The text was too lengthy for a comment and aims on finalizing the previous answers and comments, which boil down to a very simple final answer for $nge2$: $$a_n=begincaseshphantom18cdot 3^fracn-22,& ntext even,\14 cdot 3^fracn-32,& ntext odd.endcasestag1$$
The most simple way to prove $(1)$ is to count directly the number of ways for the cases $n=2,3,4,5$ obtaining $a_n=8,14,24,42$, and then proceed by induction applying the recurrence relation suggested by Mike Earnest on the base of the characteristic polynomial of the matrix introduced by Julian Mejia:
$$
a_n=4a_n-2-3a_n-4.tag2
$$
In fact the simplicity of the answer suggests that there is possibly a simpler way to prove $(2)$ or even directly $(1)$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The text was too lengthy for a comment and aims on finalizing the previous answers and comments, which boil down to a very simple final answer for $nge2$: $$a_n=begincaseshphantom18cdot 3^fracn-22,& ntext even,\14 cdot 3^fracn-32,& ntext odd.endcasestag1$$
The most simple way to prove $(1)$ is to count directly the number of ways for the cases $n=2,3,4,5$ obtaining $a_n=8,14,24,42$, and then proceed by induction applying the recurrence relation suggested by Mike Earnest on the base of the characteristic polynomial of the matrix introduced by Julian Mejia:
$$
a_n=4a_n-2-3a_n-4.tag2
$$
In fact the simplicity of the answer suggests that there is possibly a simpler way to prove $(2)$ or even directly $(1)$.
$endgroup$
The text was too lengthy for a comment and aims on finalizing the previous answers and comments, which boil down to a very simple final answer for $nge2$: $$a_n=begincaseshphantom18cdot 3^fracn-22,& ntext even,\14 cdot 3^fracn-32,& ntext odd.endcasestag1$$
The most simple way to prove $(1)$ is to count directly the number of ways for the cases $n=2,3,4,5$ obtaining $a_n=8,14,24,42$, and then proceed by induction applying the recurrence relation suggested by Mike Earnest on the base of the characteristic polynomial of the matrix introduced by Julian Mejia:
$$
a_n=4a_n-2-3a_n-4.tag2
$$
In fact the simplicity of the answer suggests that there is possibly a simpler way to prove $(2)$ or even directly $(1)$.
edited 4 mins ago
answered 3 hours ago
useruser
6,69011031
6,69011031
add a comment |
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Start with an easier problem: how many two-digit numbers are there? what about three-digit?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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I could simply guess the case of two digit numbers. How does it help me prove the general one?
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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You do not need to guess, you can count. How many choices for the first digit do you have? what about the second?
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– Vasya
4 hours ago
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For the first digit (call it a1) there are 5 choices. For the second digit at most 2 choices. Either a1-2 or a1+2. But it depends if a1 is greater than 2/ smaller than 8 etc. I’m stuck on this.
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– furfur
4 hours ago
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Letting $a_m$ be the number of such integers with $m$ digits, then $a_m$ obeys the recurrence $$a_m=4a_m-2-3a_m-4qquad textfor all mge 6.$$ The proof is based on Julian Mejia's answer, along with the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, but perhaps you can give a combinatorial proof of that recurrence, then solve it.
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– Mike Earnest
2 hours ago