Normal Operator || T^2|| = ||T||^2 Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)If $S$ and $T$ are commuting, normal operators, then $ST$ is normal$T^2=I$ implies that $T$ is a normal operatorProving an operator is Self-adjoint using the Spectral TheoremEigenvalues of adjoint operator [General Case]diagonalizability implies existence of an inner product wrt an operator is normalNormal operator over real inner product spaceNormal matrix over real inner product space with real eigenvalues is Hermitianpolar form of unitary operatorWe have a linear operator T. Show $T^2=Id$ implies $T=T^*$Some property of Normal Operator

Why doesn't the university give past final exams' answers?

Why are two-digit numbers in Jonathan Swift's "Gulliver's Travels" (1726) written in "German style"?

Providing direct feedback to a product salesperson

Does Prince Arnaud cause someone holding the Princess to lose?

Normal Operator || T^2|| = ||T||^2

Marquee sign letters

Can this water damage be explained by lack of gutters and grading issues?

Why isn't everyone flabbergasted about Bran's "gift"?

How is an IPA symbol that lacks a name (e.g. ɲ) called?

false 'Security alert' from Google - every login generates mails from 'no-reply@accounts.google.com'

Why does BitLocker not use RSA?

Is there a verb for listening stealthily?

Suing a Police Officer Instead of the Police Department

If gravity precedes the formation of a solar system, where did the mass come from that caused the gravity?

Why do people think Winterfell crypts is the safest place for women, children & old people?

tabularx column has extra padding at right?

Recursive calls to a function - why is the address of the parameter passed to it lowering with each call?

Why did Bronn offer to be Tyrion Lannister's champion in trial by combat?

What could prevent concentrated local exploration?

Proving inequality for positive definite matrix

Trying to enter the Fox's den

Can I ask an author to send me his ebook?

Why did Israel vote against lifting the American embargo on Cuba?

Pointing to problems without suggesting solutions



Normal Operator || T^2|| = ||T||^2



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)If $S$ and $T$ are commuting, normal operators, then $ST$ is normal$T^2=I$ implies that $T$ is a normal operatorProving an operator is Self-adjoint using the Spectral TheoremEigenvalues of adjoint operator [General Case]diagonalizability implies existence of an inner product wrt an operator is normalNormal operator over real inner product spaceNormal matrix over real inner product space with real eigenvalues is Hermitianpolar form of unitary operatorWe have a linear operator T. Show $T^2=Id$ implies $T=T^*$Some property of Normal Operator










2












$begingroup$


Given a complex inner product space X, and an operator T: X $rightarrow$ X is normal i.e. T$^*$T = TT$^*$.

How can we show ||T$^2$|| = ||T||$^2$?



By the definition of operator norm, it follows that ||T|| = sup $frac$ and ||T$^2$|| = sup $fracT^2x$. Then I can express the numerator as a form of inner product. But I still am not able to make these two equal. Any good ideas?










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$
















    2












    $begingroup$


    Given a complex inner product space X, and an operator T: X $rightarrow$ X is normal i.e. T$^*$T = TT$^*$.

    How can we show ||T$^2$|| = ||T||$^2$?



    By the definition of operator norm, it follows that ||T|| = sup $frac$ and ||T$^2$|| = sup $fracT^2x$. Then I can express the numerator as a form of inner product. But I still am not able to make these two equal. Any good ideas?










    share|cite|improve this question









    $endgroup$














      2












      2








      2





      $begingroup$


      Given a complex inner product space X, and an operator T: X $rightarrow$ X is normal i.e. T$^*$T = TT$^*$.

      How can we show ||T$^2$|| = ||T||$^2$?



      By the definition of operator norm, it follows that ||T|| = sup $frac$ and ||T$^2$|| = sup $fracT^2x$. Then I can express the numerator as a form of inner product. But I still am not able to make these two equal. Any good ideas?










      share|cite|improve this question









      $endgroup$




      Given a complex inner product space X, and an operator T: X $rightarrow$ X is normal i.e. T$^*$T = TT$^*$.

      How can we show ||T$^2$|| = ||T||$^2$?



      By the definition of operator norm, it follows that ||T|| = sup $frac$ and ||T$^2$|| = sup $fracT^2x$. Then I can express the numerator as a form of inner product. But I still am not able to make these two equal. Any good ideas?







      linear-algebra






      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question











      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question










      asked 1 hour ago









      EricEric

      798




      798




















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          5












          $begingroup$

          If $T$ is normal, then $|Tx|^2=left<Tx,Txright>=left<x,T^*Txright>
          =left<x,TT^*xright>=|T^*x|^2$
          , so $|Tx|=|T^*x|$ (and therefore
          $|T|=|T^*|$).
          Then (replacing $x$ by $Tx$)
          $|T^2x|=|T^*Tx|$ so that $|T^2|=|T^*T|$. But also
          $|Tx|^2=left<x,T^*Txright>le|T^*T||x|^2$ so that $|T|^2le|T^*T|
          =|T^2|$
          . But $|T^2|le|T|^2$. We conclude that $|T^2|=|T|^2$
          whenever $T$ is normal.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            Thanks! By the way, how can we get (i) ||Tx|| = ||T*x|| implies that ||T|| = ||T*||?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            7 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            (ii) why can we have <x, T$^*$Tx> $leq$ ||T$^*$T|| ||x||$^2$?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            5 mins ago











          • $begingroup$
            By the definition: $|T|=sup_x|Tx|$. @Eric
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            5 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @eric $|left<x,Axright>|le|x||Ax|le|A||x|^2$.
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            3 mins ago











          Your Answer








          StackExchange.ready(function()
          var channelOptions =
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "69"
          ;
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
          createEditor();
          );

          else
          createEditor();

          );

          function createEditor()
          StackExchange.prepareEditor(
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
          convertImagesToLinks: true,
          noModals: true,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: 10,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          imageUploader:
          brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
          contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
          allowUrls: true
          ,
          noCode: true, onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          );



          );













          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3197793%2fnormal-operator-t2-t2%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown

























          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes








          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes









          5












          $begingroup$

          If $T$ is normal, then $|Tx|^2=left<Tx,Txright>=left<x,T^*Txright>
          =left<x,TT^*xright>=|T^*x|^2$
          , so $|Tx|=|T^*x|$ (and therefore
          $|T|=|T^*|$).
          Then (replacing $x$ by $Tx$)
          $|T^2x|=|T^*Tx|$ so that $|T^2|=|T^*T|$. But also
          $|Tx|^2=left<x,T^*Txright>le|T^*T||x|^2$ so that $|T|^2le|T^*T|
          =|T^2|$
          . But $|T^2|le|T|^2$. We conclude that $|T^2|=|T|^2$
          whenever $T$ is normal.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            Thanks! By the way, how can we get (i) ||Tx|| = ||T*x|| implies that ||T|| = ||T*||?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            7 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            (ii) why can we have <x, T$^*$Tx> $leq$ ||T$^*$T|| ||x||$^2$?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            5 mins ago











          • $begingroup$
            By the definition: $|T|=sup_x|Tx|$. @Eric
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            5 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @eric $|left<x,Axright>|le|x||Ax|le|A||x|^2$.
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            3 mins ago















          5












          $begingroup$

          If $T$ is normal, then $|Tx|^2=left<Tx,Txright>=left<x,T^*Txright>
          =left<x,TT^*xright>=|T^*x|^2$
          , so $|Tx|=|T^*x|$ (and therefore
          $|T|=|T^*|$).
          Then (replacing $x$ by $Tx$)
          $|T^2x|=|T^*Tx|$ so that $|T^2|=|T^*T|$. But also
          $|Tx|^2=left<x,T^*Txright>le|T^*T||x|^2$ so that $|T|^2le|T^*T|
          =|T^2|$
          . But $|T^2|le|T|^2$. We conclude that $|T^2|=|T|^2$
          whenever $T$ is normal.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            Thanks! By the way, how can we get (i) ||Tx|| = ||T*x|| implies that ||T|| = ||T*||?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            7 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            (ii) why can we have <x, T$^*$Tx> $leq$ ||T$^*$T|| ||x||$^2$?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            5 mins ago











          • $begingroup$
            By the definition: $|T|=sup_x|Tx|$. @Eric
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            5 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @eric $|left<x,Axright>|le|x||Ax|le|A||x|^2$.
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            3 mins ago













          5












          5








          5





          $begingroup$

          If $T$ is normal, then $|Tx|^2=left<Tx,Txright>=left<x,T^*Txright>
          =left<x,TT^*xright>=|T^*x|^2$
          , so $|Tx|=|T^*x|$ (and therefore
          $|T|=|T^*|$).
          Then (replacing $x$ by $Tx$)
          $|T^2x|=|T^*Tx|$ so that $|T^2|=|T^*T|$. But also
          $|Tx|^2=left<x,T^*Txright>le|T^*T||x|^2$ so that $|T|^2le|T^*T|
          =|T^2|$
          . But $|T^2|le|T|^2$. We conclude that $|T^2|=|T|^2$
          whenever $T$ is normal.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          If $T$ is normal, then $|Tx|^2=left<Tx,Txright>=left<x,T^*Txright>
          =left<x,TT^*xright>=|T^*x|^2$
          , so $|Tx|=|T^*x|$ (and therefore
          $|T|=|T^*|$).
          Then (replacing $x$ by $Tx$)
          $|T^2x|=|T^*Tx|$ so that $|T^2|=|T^*T|$. But also
          $|Tx|^2=left<x,T^*Txright>le|T^*T||x|^2$ so that $|T|^2le|T^*T|
          =|T^2|$
          . But $|T^2|le|T|^2$. We conclude that $|T^2|=|T|^2$
          whenever $T$ is normal.







          share|cite|improve this answer












          share|cite|improve this answer



          share|cite|improve this answer










          answered 23 mins ago









          Lord Shark the UnknownLord Shark the Unknown

          109k1163136




          109k1163136











          • $begingroup$
            Thanks! By the way, how can we get (i) ||Tx|| = ||T*x|| implies that ||T|| = ||T*||?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            7 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            (ii) why can we have <x, T$^*$Tx> $leq$ ||T$^*$T|| ||x||$^2$?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            5 mins ago











          • $begingroup$
            By the definition: $|T|=sup_x|Tx|$. @Eric
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            5 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @eric $|left<x,Axright>|le|x||Ax|le|A||x|^2$.
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            3 mins ago
















          • $begingroup$
            Thanks! By the way, how can we get (i) ||Tx|| = ||T*x|| implies that ||T|| = ||T*||?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            7 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            (ii) why can we have <x, T$^*$Tx> $leq$ ||T$^*$T|| ||x||$^2$?
            $endgroup$
            – Eric
            5 mins ago











          • $begingroup$
            By the definition: $|T|=sup_x|Tx|$. @Eric
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            5 mins ago










          • $begingroup$
            @eric $|left<x,Axright>|le|x||Ax|le|A||x|^2$.
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            3 mins ago















          $begingroup$
          Thanks! By the way, how can we get (i) ||Tx|| = ||T*x|| implies that ||T|| = ||T*||?
          $endgroup$
          – Eric
          7 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          Thanks! By the way, how can we get (i) ||Tx|| = ||T*x|| implies that ||T|| = ||T*||?
          $endgroup$
          – Eric
          7 mins ago












          $begingroup$
          (ii) why can we have <x, T$^*$Tx> $leq$ ||T$^*$T|| ||x||$^2$?
          $endgroup$
          – Eric
          5 mins ago





          $begingroup$
          (ii) why can we have <x, T$^*$Tx> $leq$ ||T$^*$T|| ||x||$^2$?
          $endgroup$
          – Eric
          5 mins ago













          $begingroup$
          By the definition: $|T|=sup_x|Tx|$. @Eric
          $endgroup$
          – Lord Shark the Unknown
          5 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          By the definition: $|T|=sup_x|Tx|$. @Eric
          $endgroup$
          – Lord Shark the Unknown
          5 mins ago












          $begingroup$
          @eric $|left<x,Axright>|le|x||Ax|le|A||x|^2$.
          $endgroup$
          – Lord Shark the Unknown
          3 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          @eric $|left<x,Axright>|le|x||Ax|le|A||x|^2$.
          $endgroup$
          – Lord Shark the Unknown
          3 mins ago

















          draft saved

          draft discarded
















































          Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


          • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

          But avoid


          • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

          • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

          Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


          To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3197793%2fnormal-operator-t2-t2%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown





















































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown

































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown







          Popular posts from this blog

          Dapidodigma demeter Subspecies | Notae | Tabula navigationisDapidodigmaAfrotropical Butterflies: Lycaenidae - Subtribe IolainaAmplifica

          Constantinus Vanšenkin Nexus externi | Tabula navigationisБольшая российская энциклопедияAmplifica

          Vas sanguineum Index Historia | Divisio | Constructio anatomica | Vasorum sanguineorum morbi (angiopathiae) | Notae | Nexus interniTabula navigationisAmplifica