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Salary overtime and PTO on the same week [on hold]



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar ManaraPolitely and professionally declining overtimeHow can I discourage employees from working voluntary overtime?Denied PTO AFTER approvalIf working after midnight on the last day of the week, what week do the extra overtime hours apply to?PTO and New JobHow (and if) to ask to be paid for overtime (Ontario Engineer)Placed on 24 hour shift under National Minimum Wage (UK)Hourly tracking in a salaried position - how to do peaceful protest?Not getting paid overtimeManager is upset because I asked HR to clarify a company policy after he had explained it to me



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I just want to know if there is anything that I can specifically reference online with regards to the following.



Employee is salaried. Employee worked over 140 hours in a single week: over 30 hour shift followed by 20 hour shift where employee had 6 hours of sleep between shifts during "expected work hours".



Employee manual states that deviation from expected work hours requires PTO, and thus was forced to take PTO in order to sleep.



Apparently United States allows severe abuse of Salary employees as everyone knows, but I have a hard time imagining there isn't something that protects the employee from that.










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  • I voted to close. You're asking for legal advice, which is considered off-topic.

    – Abigail
    6 hours ago











  • What state are you in?

    – DJClayworth
    6 hours ago






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    The person isn't a medical resident or something like that, are they?

    – mkennedy
    5 hours ago











  • There are only 168 hours in a calendar week, remind me not to work for this company

    – cdkMoose
    4 hours ago











  • If this question is legit (and I have a hard time believing its real), then this company is the biggest bunch of idiots I've ever heard of. They managed to get a person dedicated enough to work 30 straight hours, crash for 6, and then pull another 20 hours? And instead of lavishly praising them for a frankly ridiculous amount of effort... they tried to punish them on a technicality?

    – Kevin
    3 hours ago

















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I just want to know if there is anything that I can specifically reference online with regards to the following.



Employee is salaried. Employee worked over 140 hours in a single week: over 30 hour shift followed by 20 hour shift where employee had 6 hours of sleep between shifts during "expected work hours".



Employee manual states that deviation from expected work hours requires PTO, and thus was forced to take PTO in order to sleep.



Apparently United States allows severe abuse of Salary employees as everyone knows, but I have a hard time imagining there isn't something that protects the employee from that.










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  • "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Abigail, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Dan Pichelman, gnat, sf02
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  • I voted to close. You're asking for legal advice, which is considered off-topic.

    – Abigail
    6 hours ago











  • What state are you in?

    – DJClayworth
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    The person isn't a medical resident or something like that, are they?

    – mkennedy
    5 hours ago











  • There are only 168 hours in a calendar week, remind me not to work for this company

    – cdkMoose
    4 hours ago











  • If this question is legit (and I have a hard time believing its real), then this company is the biggest bunch of idiots I've ever heard of. They managed to get a person dedicated enough to work 30 straight hours, crash for 6, and then pull another 20 hours? And instead of lavishly praising them for a frankly ridiculous amount of effort... they tried to punish them on a technicality?

    – Kevin
    3 hours ago













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I just want to know if there is anything that I can specifically reference online with regards to the following.



Employee is salaried. Employee worked over 140 hours in a single week: over 30 hour shift followed by 20 hour shift where employee had 6 hours of sleep between shifts during "expected work hours".



Employee manual states that deviation from expected work hours requires PTO, and thus was forced to take PTO in order to sleep.



Apparently United States allows severe abuse of Salary employees as everyone knows, but I have a hard time imagining there isn't something that protects the employee from that.










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I just want to know if there is anything that I can specifically reference online with regards to the following.



Employee is salaried. Employee worked over 140 hours in a single week: over 30 hour shift followed by 20 hour shift where employee had 6 hours of sleep between shifts during "expected work hours".



Employee manual states that deviation from expected work hours requires PTO, and thus was forced to take PTO in order to sleep.



Apparently United States allows severe abuse of Salary employees as everyone knows, but I have a hard time imagining there isn't something that protects the employee from that.







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  • "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Abigail, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Dan Pichelman, gnat, sf02
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  • "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Abigail, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Dan Pichelman, gnat, sf02
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  • I voted to close. You're asking for legal advice, which is considered off-topic.

    – Abigail
    6 hours ago











  • What state are you in?

    – DJClayworth
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    The person isn't a medical resident or something like that, are they?

    – mkennedy
    5 hours ago











  • There are only 168 hours in a calendar week, remind me not to work for this company

    – cdkMoose
    4 hours ago











  • If this question is legit (and I have a hard time believing its real), then this company is the biggest bunch of idiots I've ever heard of. They managed to get a person dedicated enough to work 30 straight hours, crash for 6, and then pull another 20 hours? And instead of lavishly praising them for a frankly ridiculous amount of effort... they tried to punish them on a technicality?

    – Kevin
    3 hours ago

















  • I voted to close. You're asking for legal advice, which is considered off-topic.

    – Abigail
    6 hours ago











  • What state are you in?

    – DJClayworth
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    The person isn't a medical resident or something like that, are they?

    – mkennedy
    5 hours ago











  • There are only 168 hours in a calendar week, remind me not to work for this company

    – cdkMoose
    4 hours ago











  • If this question is legit (and I have a hard time believing its real), then this company is the biggest bunch of idiots I've ever heard of. They managed to get a person dedicated enough to work 30 straight hours, crash for 6, and then pull another 20 hours? And instead of lavishly praising them for a frankly ridiculous amount of effort... they tried to punish them on a technicality?

    – Kevin
    3 hours ago
















I voted to close. You're asking for legal advice, which is considered off-topic.

– Abigail
6 hours ago





I voted to close. You're asking for legal advice, which is considered off-topic.

– Abigail
6 hours ago













What state are you in?

– DJClayworth
6 hours ago





What state are you in?

– DJClayworth
6 hours ago




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1





The person isn't a medical resident or something like that, are they?

– mkennedy
5 hours ago





The person isn't a medical resident or something like that, are they?

– mkennedy
5 hours ago













There are only 168 hours in a calendar week, remind me not to work for this company

– cdkMoose
4 hours ago





There are only 168 hours in a calendar week, remind me not to work for this company

– cdkMoose
4 hours ago













If this question is legit (and I have a hard time believing its real), then this company is the biggest bunch of idiots I've ever heard of. They managed to get a person dedicated enough to work 30 straight hours, crash for 6, and then pull another 20 hours? And instead of lavishly praising them for a frankly ridiculous amount of effort... they tried to punish them on a technicality?

– Kevin
3 hours ago





If this question is legit (and I have a hard time believing its real), then this company is the biggest bunch of idiots I've ever heard of. They managed to get a person dedicated enough to work 30 straight hours, crash for 6, and then pull another 20 hours? And instead of lavishly praising them for a frankly ridiculous amount of effort... they tried to punish them on a technicality?

– Kevin
3 hours ago










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PTO is the wrong thing to be worried about here. It's kind of like someone running over your dog and then focusing on how it messed up the edging on your lawn.



There is basically no reason for a salaried employee to ever consent to working 30 hours straight, let alone come back to work another 20 hours shortly after that. I'd recommend setting boundaries with the boss/company about the length of a shift and similar things. However, if the situation has deteriorated to where someone works 50 hours over 2-3 days and the company complains about you sleeping, then you should probably just leave; it's not realistic to believe that is going to improve to a healthy situation.



In terms of legal protection, salaried employees in most states are not signing their life over, but instead agreeing to work around 40 hours a week. In many cases there are complaints you can file, and or grounds where you can sue. In all legal things, save written communication, write down verbal conversations, and consult a local lawyer.






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    PTO is the wrong thing to be worried about here. It's kind of like someone running over your dog and then focusing on how it messed up the edging on your lawn.



    There is basically no reason for a salaried employee to ever consent to working 30 hours straight, let alone come back to work another 20 hours shortly after that. I'd recommend setting boundaries with the boss/company about the length of a shift and similar things. However, if the situation has deteriorated to where someone works 50 hours over 2-3 days and the company complains about you sleeping, then you should probably just leave; it's not realistic to believe that is going to improve to a healthy situation.



    In terms of legal protection, salaried employees in most states are not signing their life over, but instead agreeing to work around 40 hours a week. In many cases there are complaints you can file, and or grounds where you can sue. In all legal things, save written communication, write down verbal conversations, and consult a local lawyer.






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      PTO is the wrong thing to be worried about here. It's kind of like someone running over your dog and then focusing on how it messed up the edging on your lawn.



      There is basically no reason for a salaried employee to ever consent to working 30 hours straight, let alone come back to work another 20 hours shortly after that. I'd recommend setting boundaries with the boss/company about the length of a shift and similar things. However, if the situation has deteriorated to where someone works 50 hours over 2-3 days and the company complains about you sleeping, then you should probably just leave; it's not realistic to believe that is going to improve to a healthy situation.



      In terms of legal protection, salaried employees in most states are not signing their life over, but instead agreeing to work around 40 hours a week. In many cases there are complaints you can file, and or grounds where you can sue. In all legal things, save written communication, write down verbal conversations, and consult a local lawyer.






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        PTO is the wrong thing to be worried about here. It's kind of like someone running over your dog and then focusing on how it messed up the edging on your lawn.



        There is basically no reason for a salaried employee to ever consent to working 30 hours straight, let alone come back to work another 20 hours shortly after that. I'd recommend setting boundaries with the boss/company about the length of a shift and similar things. However, if the situation has deteriorated to where someone works 50 hours over 2-3 days and the company complains about you sleeping, then you should probably just leave; it's not realistic to believe that is going to improve to a healthy situation.



        In terms of legal protection, salaried employees in most states are not signing their life over, but instead agreeing to work around 40 hours a week. In many cases there are complaints you can file, and or grounds where you can sue. In all legal things, save written communication, write down verbal conversations, and consult a local lawyer.






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        PTO is the wrong thing to be worried about here. It's kind of like someone running over your dog and then focusing on how it messed up the edging on your lawn.



        There is basically no reason for a salaried employee to ever consent to working 30 hours straight, let alone come back to work another 20 hours shortly after that. I'd recommend setting boundaries with the boss/company about the length of a shift and similar things. However, if the situation has deteriorated to where someone works 50 hours over 2-3 days and the company complains about you sleeping, then you should probably just leave; it's not realistic to believe that is going to improve to a healthy situation.



        In terms of legal protection, salaried employees in most states are not signing their life over, but instead agreeing to work around 40 hours a week. In many cases there are complaints you can file, and or grounds where you can sue. In all legal things, save written communication, write down verbal conversations, and consult a local lawyer.







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