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A limit with limit zero everywhere must be zero somewhere


Limits of Monotone Functionsuniform convergence, pointwise limitWeak star limitAbout a function finitely valued almost everywhereProve that a function has limit everywhere.Is Thomae's function Riemann integrable on every interval?How to take the derivative of this strange alternative to a devil's slippery staircase?Everywhere Super Dense Subset of $mathbbR$Show that $f$ is Riemann integrable and evaluate $int_0^1 f(x)dx$Prove the characteristic function of Cantor set is continuous almost everywhere.













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Let $f : [alpha, beta]to mathbb R$ be a function so that
$$ lim_xto x_0 f(x) = 0$$
for all $x_0 in [alpha, beta]$. Then $f(x) = 0$ for some $xin [alpha, beta]$.




The Thomae's function $f: [0,1]to mathbb R$



$$f(x) =begincases 1/q & textif x= p/qin mathbb Q, \ 0 & textotherwise.endcases$$



leads me to the above question. The Thomae function has limit zero everywhere, althought it is nonzero in $mathbb Q$. I think I can take any countable dense subset $Dsubset [alpha, beta]$ and construct a function which is nonzero in $D$ but limit equals zero everywhere. But I can't think of a function that is nonzero everywhere but has zero limit everywhere.










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    I wish to know if the following is true:




    Let $f : [alpha, beta]to mathbb R$ be a function so that
    $$ lim_xto x_0 f(x) = 0$$
    for all $x_0 in [alpha, beta]$. Then $f(x) = 0$ for some $xin [alpha, beta]$.




    The Thomae's function $f: [0,1]to mathbb R$



    $$f(x) =begincases 1/q & textif x= p/qin mathbb Q, \ 0 & textotherwise.endcases$$



    leads me to the above question. The Thomae function has limit zero everywhere, althought it is nonzero in $mathbb Q$. I think I can take any countable dense subset $Dsubset [alpha, beta]$ and construct a function which is nonzero in $D$ but limit equals zero everywhere. But I can't think of a function that is nonzero everywhere but has zero limit everywhere.










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      I wish to know if the following is true:




      Let $f : [alpha, beta]to mathbb R$ be a function so that
      $$ lim_xto x_0 f(x) = 0$$
      for all $x_0 in [alpha, beta]$. Then $f(x) = 0$ for some $xin [alpha, beta]$.




      The Thomae's function $f: [0,1]to mathbb R$



      $$f(x) =begincases 1/q & textif x= p/qin mathbb Q, \ 0 & textotherwise.endcases$$



      leads me to the above question. The Thomae function has limit zero everywhere, althought it is nonzero in $mathbb Q$. I think I can take any countable dense subset $Dsubset [alpha, beta]$ and construct a function which is nonzero in $D$ but limit equals zero everywhere. But I can't think of a function that is nonzero everywhere but has zero limit everywhere.










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      I wish to know if the following is true:




      Let $f : [alpha, beta]to mathbb R$ be a function so that
      $$ lim_xto x_0 f(x) = 0$$
      for all $x_0 in [alpha, beta]$. Then $f(x) = 0$ for some $xin [alpha, beta]$.




      The Thomae's function $f: [0,1]to mathbb R$



      $$f(x) =begincases 1/q & textif x= p/qin mathbb Q, \ 0 & textotherwise.endcases$$



      leads me to the above question. The Thomae function has limit zero everywhere, althought it is nonzero in $mathbb Q$. I think I can take any countable dense subset $Dsubset [alpha, beta]$ and construct a function which is nonzero in $D$ but limit equals zero everywhere. But I can't think of a function that is nonzero everywhere but has zero limit everywhere.







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          The number of points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|>1/n$, for a fixed $ninmathbbN$, has to be finite. Otherwise, since the interval is compact, they accumulate somewhere and at that point the limit wouldn't be zero.



          Therefore, the points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|neq0$ is countable, but $[alpha,beta]$ isn't (unless $alpha=beta$ but that case follows directly).






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            The number of points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|>1/n$, for a fixed $ninmathbbN$, has to be finite. Otherwise, since the interval is compact, they accumulate somewhere and at that point the limit wouldn't be zero.



            Therefore, the points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|neq0$ is countable, but $[alpha,beta]$ isn't (unless $alpha=beta$ but that case follows directly).






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              The number of points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|>1/n$, for a fixed $ninmathbbN$, has to be finite. Otherwise, since the interval is compact, they accumulate somewhere and at that point the limit wouldn't be zero.



              Therefore, the points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|neq0$ is countable, but $[alpha,beta]$ isn't (unless $alpha=beta$ but that case follows directly).






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                The number of points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|>1/n$, for a fixed $ninmathbbN$, has to be finite. Otherwise, since the interval is compact, they accumulate somewhere and at that point the limit wouldn't be zero.



                Therefore, the points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|neq0$ is countable, but $[alpha,beta]$ isn't (unless $alpha=beta$ but that case follows directly).






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                Therefore, the points $xin[alpha,beta]$ at which $|f(x)|neq0$ is countable, but $[alpha,beta]$ isn't (unless $alpha=beta$ but that case follows directly).







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